Teignmouth Jeweller to Liverpool Labourer?
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Parents |___________2 younger surviving sisters and 1 stepsister | John Chapman WINDEATT = (1) Emma JOHNS =(2) Jane DEAN | _______________________________________________|_________________________________________ | | | | | | | | Arthur P.C. William J. Sophia Louisa D. Walter C. George R. John C. Maud L.
John Chapman WINDEATT (1841-88)
| Born 1st September in 1841 at St. Mary Arches, St. David's, Exeter, his father, Richard Hutchings Windeatt, was then a silversmith. By 1861 his father was running his own jewellery business and John Chapman, Richard's eldest son, was employed by him. John Chapman is also described as a jeweller in militia records dated March 1868. According to this record he was discharged from the militia on the thirty first of that month. | He and his wife then moved from town to town (Christchurch, Bristol, Monmouthshire, Bridgend, Lancashire) ending up fourteen years later in Liverpool working as a dock labourer. |
Death
In the March quarter of 1888 in the Southampton Register district aged 45.
Parents & Siblings
Richard Hutchings WINDEATT (1817-1894) and Maria nee CHAPMAN (?1821-1871)
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1841 Birth in the District of St David in the County of the City of Exeter
READ FIRST| When & Where | Name | Sex | Name and Surname of Father | Name, surname and maiden surname of mother | Occupation of father | Signature, description and residence of informant | When registered |
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| 1st September 1841 Mary Arches |
John Chapman | Boy | Richard WINDEATT | Maria WINDEATT formerly CHAPMAN | Silversmith |
Mark of X Honor CHAPMAN Grandmother Stepcote Hill |
6th September 1841 |
FULL SIBLINGS: Edwin Arthur WINDEATT (1842-1843), Susan Maria WINDEATT later BERRY
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HALF-SISTER: ? Leah WINDEATT formerly EDWARDS [ More . . .
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Spouse 1 - Emma Johns
John Chapman was married twice:
- To Emma JOHNS in 1863 at Exeter. She does not appear again anywhere and there do not appear to have been any children from the marriage.
Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church of Saint Sidwell in the County of the City of Exeter
READ FIRST| Date | Name & Surname | Age | Condition | Rank or Profession | Residence at the time of Marriage | Father's Name and Forename | Rank or profession of Father | Witnesses |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Whitsun Tuesday 26/05/1863 |
John Chapman WINDEATT | 22 | Bachelor | Jeweller | Longbrook St | Richard WINDEATT | Jeweller | Rd WINDEATT
Elizabeth MITCHELL |
| Emma JOHNS | 19 | Spinster | - | Longbrook St | Samuel JOHNS | Miller |
All signed.
We don't have a definite death certificate for Emma but the following certificate maybe the correct one. It looks as though Emma died of smallpox while her husband was away in the militia and possibly Ann SHAPCOTT barely knew her and didn't know her husband's correct christian name.
1864 Death Certificate - St David in the County of the City of Exeter
READ FIRST| When & Where | Name | Sex | Age | Occupation | Cause of Death | Signature, description and residence of informant | When registered |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 17th December 1864, Goldsmith St., Exeter | Emma WINDEATT | Female | 21 years | Wife of William WINDEATT a Silversmith | Small Pox Certified Vaccinated |
Ann SHAPCOTT present at the death Cricklepit Street Exeter |
21st December January 1864 |
Spouse 2
John Chapman married Jane DEAN in 1869 in Christchurch district, Hampshire. He must have met her when he was transferred from the Devon to the Hampshire militia and he was discharged from the regiment in March and married her shortly after.
Marriage solemnized at the Register Office in the District of Christchurch in the County of Southampton
READ FIRST| Date | Name & Surname | Age | Condition | Rank or Profession | Residence at the time of Marriage | Father's Name and Forename | Rank or profession of Father | Witnesses |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10/06/1869 | John Chapman WINDEATT | 27 | Widower Bachelor |
Jeweller | Orchard St, Bournemouth | Richard WINDEATT | Jeweller | Edward PAIN
Anne DEAN |
| Jane DEAN | 21 | Spinster | - | Pokesdown Christchurch |
William DEAN | Farm Carter |
All signed and the certificate was signed by the Registrar and the Superintendent Registrar
Jane died in the Workhouse and, from information received, she had suffered mentally for some years. This must have made life difficult for the children.
READ FIRST| When & Where | Name | Sex | Age | Occupation | Cause of Death | Signature, description and residence of informant | When registered |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3rd January 1900, Union Workhouse Christchurch | Jane WINDEATT | Female | 53 years | Widow of John WINDEATT a Jeweller of Pokesdown | Softening of the brain (?3?) years Influenza 4 days Certified by H.W. Hartford?L.R.G. C.P.D.? |
Alfred CROCKETT Master Union Workhouse, Christchurch |
4th January 1900 |
Children
They moved around a lot and had a lot of children. A strange phenomenon is that John Chapman WINDEATT senior waited until 1883 before naming a son after himself. Most first sons were called after the father. John Chapman WINDEATT junior was the fifth son. This would tend to suggest that another John was born first and later died - perhaps a son of Emma JOHNS'? I have noticed that in this branch of the family the first born child is given a single first name but, if that child died, and was 'replaced' then the second child was also given a second name in addition to the repeated first name - perhaps to distinguish them from the original child?
1. Arthur Pugsley Chapman WINDEATT (1870-1914)
Born in Christchurch in the September quarter of 1870
Married in the March quarter of 1903 to Elizabeth Susan COWARD
and probably
died in Blandford, Dorset, June qtr.1914 aged 42. Not sure if they had any
children - although the 'marriage by licence' sometimes implies that the bride
was pregnant and in need of a swift marriage. However, it is also possible
that Elizabeth Susan was older than the age she claimed on the certificate.
One would assume the couple met through her father who probably worked with
Arthur. It was not at all unusual in this family for men to marry older
women (and for older women to claim they were even younger than they actually
were!).
Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of East Lulworth in the County of Dorset by Licence.
READ FIRST| Date | Name & Surname | Age | Condition | Rank or Profession | Residence at the time of Marriage | Father's Name and Forename | Rank or profession of Father | Witnesses |
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| 9/02/1903 | Arthur-Pugsley Chapman WINDEATT | 33 | Bachelor | Bricklayer | Pokesdown in the County of Southampton | John WINDEATT | Jeweller | James Joseph FOOKS
Kate Ellen WOOD |
| Elizabeth Susan COWARD | 39 | Spinster | - | East Lulworth | William COWARD | Bricklayer |
All signed the certificate.
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2. William John WINDEATT (1873-1835)
Born in Bristol in 1873. His father John Chapman WINDEATT and his family must have moved there from Christchurch.
William John WINDEATT became an engine driver and married in Surrey in 1898. He married Emma Maria PATMORE, who was born in 1870 in Harpenden (and which coincidentally was the town where I grew up in the nineteen forties and fifties).
He and his wife are buried in Molesey, Surrey according to the details given on the Gravestone Photos site. William John WINDEATT was buried in 1835, aged 62 and his wife, Emma Maria WINDEATT (née PATMORE) was buried in 1958, aged 84. A photo of their gravestone may be requested from the same site at the page for Grave 24667
Puzzle: William John's father's name is given as "Chapman Windeatt" on his copy birth certificate and as "William John Windeatt, watchmaker" on his copy marriage certificate. Why the confusion? Is it just an unhappy co-incidence of mistranscription on the part of the registrars or did William John not really know his father's full christian names? If the latter, was it because he was apprenticed very young and his parents moved away and lost touch or was it because, perhaps, his father was familiarly called by a name that was not the registered one - Bill for example. (Such things happen - my own father's name was Innes Roslyn MILES but everyone called him Gerry.)
3. Sophia WINDEATT (1875-?)
Born in Newport, Monmouthshire. She later married in 1892 in Christchurch and, I believe, had children.4. Louisa Dean WINDEATT (1876-80)
as born in Bridgend and died four years later in Liverpool where John Chapman, his father, was working as a labourer. He seemed to have moved up the west coast from Bristol. picking up casual work as he went.
5. Walter Cecil WINDEATT (1878)
born in Welsh Hill, Pennington, Lancashire and died either in the same year in Leigh or the year after in Liverpool.
6. George Richard WINDEATT (1881-8)
born in Liverpool but life in the north west couldn't have been very happy - two children died in infancy in as many years. The family must have moved back down to Christchurch a few years later because George Richard died there in 1888, age 6
1881 Birth in the Sub-district of Islington in the County of Lancaster
READ FIRST| When & Where | Name | Sex | Name and Surname of Father | Name, surname and maiden surname of mother | Occupation of father | Signature, description and residence of informant | When registered |
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| 9th December 1881 49 Byrom Terrace USD | George Richard | Boy | John WINDEATT | Mary Jane WINDEATT formerly DEAN | Labourer |
M. J. WINDEATT Mother 49 Byrom Terrace |
16th January 1882 |
7. John Chapman WINDEATT (junior) (1880-?)
Born at
the same address in Liverpool as George Richard. His father, John Chapman
senior, is recorded as a dock labourer.
Married in the December quarter of 1907 (GRO: Christchurch 2b 1521) to Laura
Mary WHITMARSH.
1883 Birth in the Sub-district of Islington in the County of Lancaster
READ FIRST| When & Where | Name | Sex | Name and Surname of Father | Name, surname and maiden surname of mother | Occupation of father | Signature, description and residence of informant | When registered |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 27th October 1883 49 Byrom Terrace USD |
John Chapman | Boy | John Chapman WINDEATT | Mary Jane WINDEATT formerly DEAN | Dock Labourer |
M. J. WINDEATT Mother 49 Byrom Terrace |
3rd December 1883 |
8. Maud Louisa WINDEATT (1885)
born and married in Christchurch is probably another daughter.
Census Transcriptions
1881
Living at 49 Byrom Terrace, Liverpool, Lancashire.
| Name | Relation | Marital Status | Gender | Age | Birthplace | Occupation |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| John WINDEATT | Head | M | Male | 40 | Exeter, Devon, England | Cotton Porter |
| Jane WINDEATT | Wife | M | Female | 30 | Bournemouth, Hampshire, England | |
| Arthur WINDEATT | Son | U | Male | 12 | Bournemouth, Hampshire, England | Scholar |
| William J. WINDEATT | Son | Male | 9 | Bristol, Somerset, England | Scholar | |
| Sophia WINDEATT | Daur | Female | 7 | Risca, Monmouth, England | Scholar |
SOURCES & NOTES
- John Chapman WINDEATT Birth Certificate 01/09/1841 - see transcription for details.
- John Chapman WINDEATT Marriage Certificate to Emma JOHNS
- John Chapman WINDEATT Marriage Certificate to Mary Jane DEAN
- William John WINDEATT Birth Certificate 29/07/1873 - see transcription for details
- William John WINDEATT Marriage Certificate to Emmie Maria PATMORE
- Walter Cecil WINDEATT Birth Certificate 15/02/1878 - see transcription for details
- George Richard WINDEATT Birth Certificate 09/12/1881 - see transcription for details
- John Chapman WINDEATT Birth Certificate 27/10/1883 - see transcription for details
- Militia Record: Photocopy of some typed transcripts provided by a direct descendant.
- Lists: A list of all the Births, Marriages and Deaths of Windeatts from 1837 to the present day. This list was originally compiled by another researcher, but has been added to, edited and further researched by Peter Windeatt who sent it to me and sparked off the initial interest.